another wonderful part this week at the meeting.
and this is what the brother said.. he related examples, based on the om book, as to how jehovah kept records.
funny part is, they all applied to population, the amount of people.. is there any part of the bible that talks about how jehovah kept a log of hours on some occasion?
WHAT?! You people are STILL not turning in your time...on time? Like moses said you are a hard headed stiff-necked people!
LOL good to know some things never change. Funny towards the end of my JW activity I would go out but not report the time. Towards the end I was just the anti-witness.
Here one for the old heads remember when they had that separate bible study slip you had to fill out for each bible study?
Thanks for your replies, will show this to the wife when I get home.
Sorry wife just called and said a friend of hers is giving this talk on the theo school this week. For those still in is this from the reasoning book and what pages are covered?
Ironically I no longer have a reasoning book!
this is my biggest dilema.
although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.
i love people!.
I feel like the first 30 years of my life I was writing my autobiography with my finger on water. There were a few ripples that landed on a distant shore followed by a gradual stillness borne of nothing and more nothing; not a trace.
Damn Terry you're going deep and poetic in this thread!
this is my biggest dilema.
although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.
i love people!.
I always had the outlook on witness life like mission impossible. Y'no how when given the assignment they get the warning if you or any member of your team is captured the secretary will disavow all knowledge of your actions.
This was what I was prepared to face if I ever left. Like terry said we are basically dealing with a bunch of folk who are conditioned or commanded to 'love' you. I remember one friend of mine who once I was out for good said he couldn't hang with me because he didn't know what I believe now?!?
This was the same cat who I used to pioneer with and hit the titty bars on the weekend with?!? GTFOH!
Just last night (sunday) I was at a witness 'gathering' and realized how much better life is without these brainwashed cult conditioned morons in it. We sat at a table with some 'sister' my wife knew back in the day. Here is how typical witness convo goes with another dub you haven't seen in awhile: Oh what hall are you guys at? Its like you have to give 'spiritual' status updates to show your continued worthiness. I saw this all around the table. Another sis 'oh it was raining so bad yesterday BUT I was determined to go out in service! Shut the fug up you self righteous bitty!
The sister my wife knew followed suite oh I have 2 kids and my oldest is progressing towards baptism! Really thats the highlight of what you can share with us about the fruit of your loins?!?
While sitting there I realized that I hate JW's a bunch of brainwashed turds who wouldn't recognized truth if it slapped them with god almighties dick!
Sorry for the rant had to get that out.
the word sovereignty is not in the bible.. .
how many times sovereignty is used?.
christ's death accomplish?.
Satan then accused God of lying. "You positively will not die," said the Devil. He went on to deceive Eve into believing that God was withholding something good and that by eating the fruit, she would become like God, having moral independence.-Gen. 3:1-5.
I dont believe they went there?!? Why won't they comment on the fact that after god kicked them out of eden (passing on his sentance of death as the writer dramatically puts it) He admitted that what the serpent said was TRUE and that they would be like god?!?
Gen 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [ e ] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
if i'm not mistaken, there is no bible verse to support following the 'faithful and discreet' slave?.
am i correct?
i know i have to research this, but to give me a jumpstart...?.
Ding
The idea that everything in the Bible such as the "faithful and wise servant" is a class or an organization is a Watchtower invention. It makes the Society appear to JWs to have deep Bible knowledge that no one else on earth has. In fact, they make it up as they go along and change it whenever it suits them.
Really for people to realize that they do this with Everything in the bible is the key!
Think about it these are the people who would have you believe that the seals that were opened in the book of revelations represents the conventions JW's held in 1918-20's ?!?
That alone should dispel any authority they try to claim.
there is an implicit pact between the magician and the audience.. .
an audience attending a magic act is in attendance for two main reasons.. 1.entertainment.
2.the desire to match wits with a puzzle and its solution and the determined effort to be amazed when this fails.. yet, above all else, the audience does not really wish to discover the secret.
The element of MISdirection is very important to magic. The Watchtower always has the folks at the Kingdom Hall looking in the wrong direction.
It is the OTHER believers who are fooled by Satan's lies. It is the concept of LOOK AT THAT not THIS which is important to controlling the natural skepticism humans are prone to.
Good point and they continue to do this when your out. Like when you point out something in the lit that condemns them, they just re-direct.
for many years, the significance of bob dylan's song, all along the watchtower, has been unclear.
what meaning does it have for us today?
how do we understand it in light of what the bible says?
I agree with TastingFreedom You are special...Should we start calling you pastor SD7 or do you prefer the true faithful and wise servent?
